Andrew: Hey there, freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner. I’m the founder of Mixergy, where I interview entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses. And joining me is, I’ll be fully open with you, a sponsor of mine who was in the news, and I didn’t expect him to be here. Last week, there was this huge article on the information about . . . and the information never has these huge articles that people spread around because it’s a paid site, but I bought a membership just to read this article that everyone’s talking about, about how Toptal, this company that most people didn’t realize how big it was. Even though I’ve been saying they’re huge, guys, pay attention to them. Most people didn’t realize how big they were.
The article in the information said not only are they big, but because they’re doing so well, their investors are not going to end up getting a piece of the company. Their investors who...