Andrew: Hey there, freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner. I’m the founder of Mixergy where I interview entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses, for an audience of real entrepreneurs who are still hungry to build businesses. And I got to tell you in the world today, people don’t want to be entrepreneurs anymore. I feel like, Joe, there was a period in time where people wanted to be entrepreneurs, and now they want to be YouTube stars or Instagram stars and it’s so much easier than creating a freaking business and you should know that.
Joe: It’s faster for sure.
Andrew: Right. More glamorous.
Joe: And the business works. Yeah.
Andrew: But business is more substantive. It will actually survive you. You can actually, if it’s done right, be sick for a while and the business will continue to grow or frankly be able to sell it and do well for yourself and your family and the business will continue to grow and...