Andrew: Hey there, freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner. I’m the founder Mixergy where I interview entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses. And there’s this interview, Chris, you’ll probably know this guy, this interview that’s stuck in my head for a long time now. It hasn’t been that long since I did the interview but it feels like it just keeps reverberating. It’s with this guy, Neil Patel. He started a software company and another software company. And then he got a funding for a big software company. And he got shares, kind of advisor shares and other software companies. So he was in the space, he always in my mind wanted to build a successful huge software company.
And then what happened was the software company that he got funding for Kissmetrics didn’t do so well. The other software companies did well, but he found that they weren’t growing dramatically because software was actually becoming too...